Tuesday 6 November 2012

TROLLCRUSHER's Detective Work on Front 242 German Concerts Mistery



Here's the analisys that TROLLCRUSHER did on the the two F242 recordings with the same date and different venues. Excellent detective work :)

It appears as though these are two different shows on two different dates:


  • The "Live In Hamburg [ 03.20.1991 ]" bootleg / gig took place on Wednesday, March 20th, 1991, at the “Docks” in Hamburg, Germany.

  • The "Huxleys Neue Welt / Live Berlin [ 03.20.1991 ]" bootleg / gig took place on Thursday, March 21st, 1991, at the “Metropol” in Berlin, Germany.


Refer to the following Front 242 fansite link (known as “Red-Team.de”) for a complete listing of Front 242 tour dates, etc.:




  • b. Select the “<< Deutsche Fan-Seite : www.red-team.de” option on the left portion of the page.


  • c. On the new page, you'll view an array of square logos taken from the “Tryanny For You” album across the top of the screen. Select the square “Band” logo in the upper left corner of the screen.


  • d. Now, on the left side of the page, you'll see four options listed vertically with the notations of “Zeitstrahl”, “Konzerte”, “Geräte”, and “Samples”. Select the “Konzerte” option with the red button above it.


  • e. On the “Konzerte” page, you'll now view a listing of years from left to right across the top of the screen beginning with “ [ 2000 ] ” and descending to “ [ 1987 ] ”.

  • f. Select the “ [ 1991 ] ” option.


  • g. Beneath the “1991 TYRANNY TOUR” header, scroll down and you'll see the pair of concert dates for each of the bootlegs we've been trying to ascertain upon which date and venue they originated from.
    20.03. Hamburg - Docks 
    21.03. Berlin - Metropol 

     
    So what it all boils down to is that whomever was responsible for the graphics on the “Front 242 - Live Berlin” bootleg (a.k.a. “Huxleys Neue Welt”), incorrectly listed the date of the show as March 20th, 1991 when it correctly should have been listed as March 21st, 1991.

    Take care,
     
    FRONT 242 (Huxleys Neue Welt [Live Berlin 03.21.91] ) tracklisting / track runtimes:

    01. Intro (1:21)
    02. Rhythm Of Time (6:20)
    03. Masterhit (4:49)
    04. Tragedy For You (4:42)
    05. The Untold (4:34)
    06. Until Death (Us Do Part) (4:14)
    07. This World Must Be Destroyed / Moldavia (12:03)
    [ combined as a single track "Track 07." ]
    08. Im Rhytmus Bleiben (3:36)
    09. W.Y.H.I.W.Y.G. - U-Men (4:56)
    10. Gripped by Fear (3:10)
    11. Gripped by Fear (Part II) (1:27)
    12. Slo-Mo (4:21)
    13. Never Stop (4:20)
    14. Soul Manager (4:21)
    15. Headhunter (5:06)
    16. First In First Out (4:48)
    17. Punish Your Machine (4:49)

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    FRONT 242 (Live In Hamburg, [03.20.1991] ) tracklisting / track runtimes:

    01. Intro (3:09)
    [ 1:48 longer than "Huxleys Neue Welt" (a.k.a. "HNW") bootleg ]

    02. Rhythm Of Time (7:56)
    [ 1:36 longer than "HNW" bootleg ]

    03. Masterhit (4:42)
    [ 0:07 seconds shorter than "HNW" bootleg ]

    04. Tragedy For You (4:40)
    [ 0:02 seconds shorter than "HNW" bootleg ]

    05. The Untold (4:26)
    [ 0:08 seconds shorter than "HNW" bootleg ]

    06. Until Death (Us Do Part) (4:17)
    [ 0:03 seconds longer than "HNW" bootleg ]

    07. This World Must Be Destroyed (5:15)
    [ split version of combined track 07. on "HNW" bootleg ]

    08. Moldavia (6:34)
    [ split version of combined track 07. on "HNW" bootleg ]

    09. Im Rhythmus Bleiben (3:15)
    [ 0:21 seconds shorter than "HNW" bootleg ]

    10. Take One (4:33)
    [ not on the F242 "HNW" bootleg ]

    11. Gripped By Fear (4:46)
    [ combined version of split tracks 10. and 11. on "HNW" bootleg ]

    12. Slo-Mo (4:25)
    [ 0:04 seconds longer than "HNW" bootleg ]

    13. Sacrifice (4:16)
    [ not on the F242 "HNW" bootleg ]

    14. Never Stop (4:22)
    [ 0:02 seconds longer than "HNW" bootleg ]

    15. Soul Manager (4:14)
    [ 0:07 seconds shorter than "HNW" bootleg ]

    16. Headhunter (6:27)
    [ 1:21 longer than "HNW" bootleg ]

    17. First In - First Out (3:40)
    [ 1:08 seconds shorter than "HNW" bootleg ]

    18. Punish You Machine (4:54)
    [ 0:05 longer than "HNW" bootleg ]

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    FRONT 242 (Live In Hamburg, [03.20.1991] ) differences versus (Huxleys Neue Welt [Live Berlin 03.21.91] ):

    01. Intro
    [ same track # as the F242 "Huxleys Neue Welt" bootleg ]


    02. Rhythm Of Time
    [ same track # as the F242 "Huxleys Neue Welt" bootleg ]

    03. Masterhit
    [ same track # as the F242 "Huxleys Neue Welt" bootleg ]

    04. Tragedy For You
    [ same track # as the F242 "Huxleys Neue Welt" bootleg ]

    05. The Untold
    [ same track # as the F242 "Huxleys Neue Welt" bootleg ]

    06. Until Death (Us Do Part)
    [ same track # as the F242 "Huxleys Neue Welt" bootleg ]

    07. This World Must Be Destroyed
    [ separate track designated as "Track 07." ]

    08. Moldavia
    [ separate track designated as "Track 08." ]

    09. Im Rhythmus Bleiben
    [ was "Track 08." on the F242 "Huxleys Neue Welt" bootleg ]

    10. Take One
    [ not on the F242 "Huxleys Neue Welt" bootleg ]

    11. Gripped By Fear
    [ possibly combined versions of Gripped By Fear ( Parts I and II ) ]

    12. Slo-Mo
    [ same track # as the F242 "Huxleys Neue Welt" bootleg ]

    13. Sacrifice
    [ not on the F242 "Huxleys Neue Welt" bootleg ]

    14. Never Stop
    [ was "Track 13." on the F242 "Huxleys Neue Welt" bootleg ]

    15. Soul Manager
    [ was "Track 14." on the F242 "Huxleys Neue Welt" bootleg ]

    16. Headhunter
    [ was "Track 15." on the F242 "Huxleys Neue Welt" bootleg ]

    17. First In - First Out
    [ was "Track 16." on the F242 "Huxleys Neue Welt" bootleg ]

    18. Punish You Machine
    [ was "Track 17." on the F242 "Huxleys Neue Welt" bootleg ]

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1 comment:

  1. Only FRONT 242 can have such a lovely following....

    PUNISH YOU MACHINE.

    242 FOR EVER.

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